Kelly, Sophy, and returning guest Kaz Weida discuss the 4th Democratic Presidential Debate, featuring 12 candidates on the stage at once. They discuss who had a good night, who had a not-so-good night, and whether any of it really mattered. Also, WHY is Tom Steyer running.
Our End Credits are read by Sonya Daniel.

Born on the 4th of July, Kelly has always been a firecracker, leading a revolution of girls sitting at the boys’ lunch table in 2nd grade and founding Young Independents in high school. Since earning her Masters, Kelly has spent the past 15 years as a university administrator. In the fall of 2017, Kelly co-created the Two Broads Talking Politics Podcast with her friend Sophy. As producer and co-host, Kelly quickly built the podcast into a nationally recognized interview show, featuring Democratic candidates, activists, and authors around the country. She lives in Chicago with her husband & two sons.