How do private interests maintain control over public land? Featuring Mark Bartolini and Laura Cunningham

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How do private interests maintain control over public land? Mickey and his guests explore the example of Point Reyes National Seashore in California, where commercial ranches and dairies still operate, despite being bought out after the park’s creation in 1962. Also in the conversation, how can national parks be made more welcoming and accessible to communities of color?


Mickey’s guests are:

  • Mark Bartolini, a disaster-relief specialist, and a former executive director of the Point Reyes National Seashore Association. He writes on public-health and parks, and their connection to social equity.
  • Laura Cunningham, who works at the Western Watersheds Project, and is the founder of 

Music-break information:

  • “This Land is Your Land” by Woody Guthrie
  • “Out in the Country” by Three Dog Night
  • “Big Yellow Taxi” by Counting Crows

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